Here's a nice little hockey Daily Somehow Related to Sports Video for ya. Earlier this week, Flyers forward Scott Hartnell tried to stop Tampa Bay's Ryan Malone from scoring...by tossing a glove at him...
Needless to say, it didn't work:
Friday, December 5, 2008
Out-Drafting Bonanza Part 4 - The New England Patriots and Bill Belichick
In case you don't remember, here's a look at our Scoring System again.
And here's the regimes we'll be looking at:
- Philadelphia Eagles (Andy Reid)
- Detroit Lions (Steve Mariucci/Dick Jauron/Rod Marinelli...all under Matt Millen and we'll use this is the baseline/epitome of crap)
- Seattle Seahawks (Mike Holmgren/Tim Ruskell)
- New England Patriots (Bill Belichick)
- Jacksonville Jaguars (Jack Del Rio)
- Dallas Cowboys (
Jerry Joneserr Wade Phillips, though we'll be counting the Parcells years because of how involved Jones was regardless) - Denver Broncos (Mike Shanahan)
- Chicago Bears (Lovie Smith)
- San Diego Charges (Norv Turner...but all the A.J. Smith era)
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2002 | 1 | Daniel Graham | 3 | 0 | Graham was an adequate starter for the Pats. Not as special as they believed he would be |
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| 2 | Deion Branch | 3 | 0 | Again, Branch was a capable starter and SB MVP. He got it done when needed, but wasn't special |
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| 3 | Traded to move up and pick Graham | 1 | 0 | A third round pick for Graham? Ouch |
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| 4 | Rohan Davey/ Jarvis Green | 2 | 0 | Davey was a total flop and Green is a decent rotation DL |
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| 5 | Traded to move up and pick Green | 1 | 0 | Can't say trading up to get a reserve DL was worth it in hindsight |
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| 6 | Traded for future pick | 0 | 0 | ?? - The Pats traded a lot and it was almost impossible to track all of them |
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| 7 | Antoine Womack/ David Givens | 2 | 1 | Womack (0) never made the team but Givens (3) was a fine starter while with the Pats |
This draft really was mixed. Belichick found three adequate to good starters, but nothing special. Graham, Givens and Branch are/were good players in New England who did help produce a few Super Bowls, so its hard to argue with the results, but no studs really were taken.
2002 Score: 13 Points. First Round Hit Total: 1/1. Quality Players Selected (total): 0/6
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2003 | 1 | Ty Warren | 4 | 0 | Warren is a fine leader on defense and a stud DT |
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| 2 | Eugene Wilson/ Bethel Johnson | 2 | 0 | Wilson was a decent safety who worked the Pats system while Johnson had speed, but only showed flashes and his lack of work ethic ended his career |
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| 3 | Traded to move up and pick Wilson | 1 | 0 | Can't say trading up for Wilson was awful, but wasn't worth it |
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| 4 | Dan Klecko/ Asante Samuel | 4 | 4 | Klecko (3+1) was a fine DT and great reserve while Samuel was an all-pro (5+3) |
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| 5 | Dan Koppen | 4 | 2 | Koppen is a pro-bowl center on a Super Bowl team |
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| 6 | Kliff Kingsbury | 0 | 0 | Another miserable backup QB, never made the team's 53 |
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| 7 | Spencer Nead/ Tully Banta-Cain/ Ethan Kelley | 1 | 0 | Nead never made the squad, Banta-Cain was a decent reserve/role player and Kelley played one game as a Pat |
Talk about a marquee draft. Belichick scored higher in the 4th round than the Lions did in the entire 2004 draft. Five of his first 6 picks were hits of at least starters and he even found a decent backup (Banta-Cain) in the 7th...which you'll note is a trend with BB, he does find relative Diamonds in the rough. Its not always Brady, but he finds contributors.
2003 Score: 22 Points. First Round Hit Total: 2/2. Quality Players Selected (total): 2/16
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2004 | 1 | Vince Wilfork/ Ben Watson | 4 | 0 | Wilfork (5) is a stud DT while Watson (3) is a solid starter |
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| 2 | Marquise Hill | 1 | -1 | Hard to fault the Pats here, but Hill was a backup until his death in 2007 |
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| 3 | Guss Scott | 1 | 0 | Scott was a special teamer for 1 season with the Pats |
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| 4 | Dexter Reid/ Cedric Cobbs | 1 | 0 | Both were reserves/special teamers |
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| 5 | P.K. Sam | 0 | 0 | Between legal issues and stupidity, Sam never suited up but did collect a Super Bowl Ring |
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| 6 | Traded for Jamil Soriano | 0 | 0 | Never played as a Pat but if you google his name, you'll see him on facebook |
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| 7 | Christian Morton | 0 | 0 | Practice squadee who never suited up |
This was clearly his worst draft. Marquise Hill and Guss Scott aren't even recognizable names, but the on thing Belichick didn't screw up was the first round, where he found a stud Defensive lineman in Vince Wilfork and a nice starter in Ben Watson.
2004 Score: 6 Points. First Round Hit Total: 4/4. Quality Players Selected (total): 4/24
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2005 | 1 | Logan Mankins | 4 | 0 | Mankins is a probowler and 2nd team all-pro, nice late round pick |
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| 2 | Traded for picks to get Hobbs, Thomas (06) and Mincey (06) picks | 2 | 0 | Hobbs as a 2nd still isn't a bad pick but the package still didn't work out by 06 |
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| 3 | Ellis Hobbs/ Nick Kaczur | 3 | 0 | Hobbs (3) is a nice starter while Kaczur, regardless of legal trouble has been an effective starter at tackle |
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| 4 | James Sanders | 3 | 1 | Sanders has adequately replaced Wilson |
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| 5 | Ryan Claridge | 1 | 0 | Claridge spent 1 year as a special teamer and was released |
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| 6 | Traded for Stevenson pick (06) | 0 | 0 | Ouch |
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| 7 | Matt Cassel/ Andy Stokes | 2 | 1 | Stokes (0) never made the 53 man team but was Mr Irrelevant, and Cassel (3) has filled in very well for Tom Brady. |
Again, Belichick didn't miss on his first four picks, finding a pro-bowl lineman and three starter to decent backup players. Then in the 7th round he found current starting Quarterback Matt Cassel. I have a feeling I might get some flack for calling Cassel a three, but while he's played well, he's a backup QB on that team. A good one, but a backup.
2005 Score: 17 Points. First Round Hit Total: 5/5. Quality Players Selected (total): 5/31
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2006 | 1 | Laurence Maroney | 3 | 0 | He's a starter, but injuryprone |
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| 2 | Chad Jackson | 1 | -1 | 13 career catches and injury prone |
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| 3 | David Thomas | 2 | 0 | Thomas is a decent blocker and adequate backup |
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| 4 | Garrett Mills/ Stephen Gostkowski | 2 | 1 | Mills never played a down as a Pat, while Gostkowski is a adequate kicker |
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| 5 | Ryan O'Callaghan | 2 | 0 | O'Callaghan is currently a career backup but could become a decent starter |
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| 6 | Jeremy Mincey/ Dan Stevenson/ Le Kevin Smith | 0 | 0 | Mincey & Stevenson never made the 53 man team, while Smith has seen little time |
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| 7 | Willie Andrews | 1 | 0 | Decent special teamer |
Again, Belichick hit on the first round. While he didn't find much gold (the jury's still out on Maroney), he did find adequate players to form the high powered team for 2007. There was the Jackson bust but he was only one of two negative scorers for Belichick. The proof is in the pudding here but off the top of my head I see five players here who have contributed to successful Patriot squads (Andrews, Gostkowski, Thomas, Maroney and O'Callaghan).
2006 Score: 11 Points. First Round Hit Total: 6/6. Quality Players Selected (total): 5/41
So its reasonable to believe the Belichick drafts were a bit overrated. On the negative side, Belichick found a lot of 2s and 3s and wasn't afraid to make some 0s and cut losses (almost all the 1s were cut quickly too and none proved to be any good regardless). His positive was his ability (again) to find a lot of 2s and 3s which played crucial roles on teams that won Super Bowls. Moreover, he never missed on a first round pick (the weakest being Maroney, Watkins or Graham, though each still started a few games).
Final Scores:
- The Philadelphia Eagles and Andy Reid/Tom Heckert: 76. First round % (3 or better): 80%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 15%
- The Detroit Lions and Steve Mariucci/Dick Jauron/Rod Marinelli: 47. First round % (3 or better): 40%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 5%
- The Seattle Seahawks and Mike Holmgren/Tim Ruskell: 69. First round % (3 or better): 60%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 10%
- The New England Patriots and Bill Belichick: 69. First round % (3 or better): 100%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 12%
Questions, concerns, comments, errors, Omissions? Please leave in the comments for send to Justin@badnewsbloggers.com
Freedom Friday Daily "Linkin' Logs" (12/5/08)
Couple of thoughts on our new (yes another) Freedom Friday Daily "Linkin' Logs"
We'll be altering the format of Friday's links only slightly. Friday's lead column is completely ad hoc and could feature any lead column. The links won't be affected too much, but our lead column could range anywhere from sports to politics to any hot button issue that strikes me this AM.
In an unrelated not, I'm half done with the Bill Belichick/New England Patriots draft review. I can already tell you, based on the drafts I've graded already, he's most likely better than the three we've completed already (duh) and he could be the gold standard of drafting. Keep in mind, that none of the drafts graded involved Tom Brady (who would have scored an 8 or 9 total I believe). So look for that in the coming hours.
This weekend, I'm attending another college hockey game (10 dollar tickets and quality hockey make it a sport worth attending) and I'll also be meeting up with some friends before they all jaunt around the states for the holidays, so I won't be posting to heavily until Sunday. I'm hoping to get another draft review by Sunday, but no promises.
And in Freedom Friday tradition (well, now), let's talk about Northeastern Alum Jose Juan Berea's night; a night where he appears to be stealing Jason Kidd's job. With the Mavericks fading against the Suns, Barea lead a 10 point run in the 4th quarter. Barea light up the place and the Dallas fans loved the passion. Look for Barea to move from "co-starter" to starter by season's end if the trend continues.
- Chargers beat Raiders 34-7 on Thursday Night Football on the NFL Network...blah blah blah. Worse yet, with the injury to Jamarcus Russell and his season in doubt, you have to start to wonder what the Raiders are going to do. Fact of the matter is, blowing a top pick can set your franchise back years.
- You see, if the game matters, the team matters and the player matters, he'll play regardless of the criminal charges (and impending suspension) he'll be facing.
- The Yankees seem primed to grab one time Red Sock Derek Lowe as well as set up a meeting with C.C. Sabathia where (I believe) the Yankees will set their timetable. Honestly, its a smart move by the Yanks. They're going to pay more than anyone else for Sabathia because of his location preference (and the Yankees always pay more anyway), but if they allow him to shop for a month or two, the price can only go higher; so why not push him a little and make him accept an already high deal.
- Barry Bonds indicted. No; again.
- AA has the scoop on a tricky little foul during the OU-USC game.
- AGM's The Beast has the info on USC (football)'s plan to scrap a time out in exchange for wearing the home jerseys at the Rose Bowl.
- Mr E of EC says Sean Avery's mouth isn't out of the woods yet. Oh believe me, he's said much worse...still...
- And finally, Deadspin has the low down on Playboy's hottest sportscaster of 08.
Thursday, December 4, 2008
DSRTSV! 12/4/08
For those of you who haven't seen it (meaning you're probably not Sixers, Bulls or NBA fans), but here's the video of Derrick Rose absolutely owning Andre Miller.
And when I say "absolutely owning" I'm dead serious. Miller is no slouch either, he's definitely a B+ PG and an excellent distributor, so while he most likely slipped a little, the play just makes him look like a boy playing against his dad.
And when I say "absolutely owning" I'm dead serious. Miller is no slouch either, he's definitely a B+ PG and an excellent distributor, so while he most likely slipped a little, the play just makes him look like a boy playing against his dad.
Out-Drafting Bonanza Part 3 - Seattle Seahawks & Mike Holmgren/Tim Ruskell
In case you don't remember, here's a look at our Scoring System again.
And here's the regimes we'll be looking at:
- Philadelphia Eagles (Andy Reid)
- Detroit Lions (Steve Mariucci/Dick Jauron/Rod Marinelli...all under Matt Millen and we'll use this is the baseline/epitome of crap)
- Seattle Seahawks (Mike Holmgren)
- New England Patriots (Bill Belichick)
- Jacksonville Jaguars (Jack Del Rio)
- Dallas Cowboys (
Jerry Joneserr Wade Phillips, though we'll be counting the Parcells years because of how involved Jones was regardless) - Denver Broncos (Mike Shanahan)
- Chicago Bears (Lovie Smith)
- San Diego Charges (Norv Turner...but all the A.J. Smith era)
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2002 | 1 | Jerramy Stevens | 3 | 0 | Stevens, most famous for being a Super Bowl flop, he was an adequate player and nothing more |
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| 2 | Maurice Morris/ Anton Palepoi | 2 | -1 | Mo Morris is the essence of career solid backup but Palepoi was a total flop, starting once and rarely playing beyond that |
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| 3 | Kris Richard | 2 | 0 | Adequate special teamer |
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| 4 | Terreal Bierria | 2 | 0 | His family a victim of Hurricane Katrina, he left the Seahawks to care for his family and never returned to football after being the starting SS in 04 |
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| 5 | Rocky Bernard/ Ryan Hannam/ Matt Hill | 2 | 2 | Rocky Bernard (4) is an excellent DT and crucial to the Seahawks SB run, Hannam (2) was a career special teamer/backup and Matt Hill (1) rarely played. Bonus points for Bernard as he's a stud DT |
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| 6 | Craig Jarrett | 0 | 0 | Never played a down as a Seahawk |
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| 7 | Jeff Kelly | 1 | 0 | Career 3rd string QB, first pass was a Pick-6 |
Honestly, this draft was a respectable draft. It's highlighted by Rocky Bernard, a solid DT (though the 5th round score is hampered by two shitty players also selected). Jerramy Stevens was a TE with all the assets needed to play the game except a brain and Maurice Morris is the essence of a backup RB (that's a good thing). So its a pretty average draft based on the results so far.
2002 Score: 13 Points. First Round Hit Total: 1/1. Quality Players Selected (total): 1/10
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2003 | 1 | Marcus Trufant | 4 | 0 | Trufant is a solid starter and pro-bowler regardless of this season |
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| 2 | Ken Hamlin | 4 | 0 | We'll give Hamlin a 4 here because he was very good in Seattle, but he's been better in Dallas |
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| 3 | Wayne Hunter | 0 | 0 | Hunter had legal trouble leading to his release and never played a down as a Seahawk |
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| 4 | Seneca Wallace/ Solomon Bates | 2 | 1 | Wallace (3) has been an adequate backup QB/interesting WR, but Bates (1) never stuck, starting just once and out of football in 2 years |
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| 5 | Chris Davis | 1 | 0 | Played a few downs |
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| 6 | Rashad Moore | 2 | 0 | A career backup, he's bounced around the NFL |
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| 7 | Josh Brown/ Taco Wallace | 2 | 1 | A guy named Taco? He played sparingly (1) while Brown (3) has been a solid NFL kicker |
Let's get this out of the way right now. How can you fault Mike Holmgren for drafting a guy named "Taco." I know I can't. Beyond that, he drafted two DBs who are excellent and pro-bowlers (and vital to their Super Bowl Run) as well as a decent backup QB. Toss in a above average kicker and you just had a good draft.
2003 Score: 17 Points. First Round Hit Total: 2/2. Quality Players Selected (total): 3/19
| 2004 | 1 | Marcus Tubbs | 2 | 0 | Tubbs is/was a talented player but has been hampered by injuries. He started a few games but never really became a force |
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| 2 | Michael Boulware | 3 | 0 | A career backup Boulware lasted three years with the Seahawks, starting occasionally |
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| 3 | Sean Locklear | 3 | 0 | Locklear is a quality starter at both Guard and Tackle |
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| 4 | Niko Koutouvides | 2 | 0 | Career backup/Special Teamer |
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| 5 | D.J. Hackett | 3 | 0 | Hackett was an adequate fringe starter |
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| 6 | Craig Terrill | 2 | 0 | Career backup/Special Teamer |
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| 7 | Donnie Jones | 1 | 0 | Punted a few times, waived after a season |
2004 was the kind of draft that stocks your team relatively well, but doesn't do all that much. A lot of average starters/career backups were drafted (Locklear, Hackett) but Marcus Tubbs really kills the draft. You can't fault Holmgren for taking him and he is a talented player but he could/can not make it on the field. The score is certainly deceiving here.
2004 Score: 16 Points. First Round Hit Total: 2/3. Quality Players Selected (total): 3/26
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2005 | 1 | Chris Spencer | 3 | 0 | Injury prone but a quality starter at both center and guard |
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| 2 | Lofa Tatupu | 5 | 0 | All-Pro LB |
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| 3 | David Greene/ Leroy Hill | 2 | -1 | Never played a down as a Seahawk while Hill is a decent starter at LB |
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| 4 | Ray Willis | 1 | 0 | Special Teamer/Backup |
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| 5 | Jeb Huckeba | 0 | 0 | I could not find a down he played as a Seahawk |
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| 6 | Tony Jackson | 0 | 0 | I could not find a down he played as a Seahawk |
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| 7 | Cornelius Wortham/ Doug Nienhuis | 1 | 0 | Wortham was a special teamer before being cut in 2006 and Nienhuis never made the 43 man roster |
Bow down and respect Tatupu who saved an otherwise shitty draft. Chris Spencer is a respectable 3 position lineman/starter but otherwise this draft was crap. Again, bonus points for Tatupu (not really) who saved Holmgren from our lowest score to date (6 - tied with the Lions in 2005)
2005 Score: 11 Points. First Round Hit Total: 3/4. Quality Players Selected (total): 4/35
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2006 | 1 | Kelly Jennings | 2 | -1 | Nickleback/special teamer, not good enough to start |
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| 2 | Darryl Tapp | 3 | 0 | Tapp is a decent starter and that's about it |
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| 3 | Compensation for Nate Burleson signing | 1
| 0 | Really, a 3rd plus a boat load of cash for Burleson? Ouch |
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| 4 | Rob Sims | 3 | 0 | Respectable career backup, could become a solid starter |
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| 5 | David Kirtman | 1 | 0 | Never stuck with the Seahawks |
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| 6 | Traded for Mike Green | 1
| 0 | Career backup as a Seahawk, released before the start of this season |
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| 7 | Ryan Packemeirer/ Ben Obomanu | 2 | 0 | Plackemeirer was an adequate punter and Obomanu still is a question mark with some talent |
Ruskell clearly can't do much better with his first draft. About par for the course over the last three years as 2005 wasn't special and 2004 was a bit deceiving. Sims and Tapp were the decent players selected here and they're only decent starters to career backup level.
2006 Score: 12 Points. First Round Hit Total: 3/5. Quality Players Selected (total): 4/41
And there you have it. The Holmgren and 2006 Ruskell led Seahawks scored 69 points. If 76 produces a similar team with one Super Bowl run (and probably a little more success in the playoffs) you can see the subtle difference. I have a feeling the Patriots might score closer to high 80s or 90s. And they're next. So let's see what type of drafting they do to complement the video camera. Stay Tuned for Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots.
Scores:
- The Philadelphia Eagles and Andy Reid/Tom Heckert: 77. First round % (3 or better): 80%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 15%
- The Detroit Lions and Steve Mariucci/Dick Jauron/Rod Marinelli: 47. First round % (3 or better): 40%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 5%
- The Seattle Seahawks and Mike Holmgren/Tim Ruskell: 69. First round % (3 or better): 60%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 10%
Questions, concerns, comments, errors, Omissions? Please leave in the comments for send to Justin@badnewsbloggers.com
Thirsty Thursday Daily "Linkin Logs" (12/4/08)
But in my mind, this is the NCAA title game. And moreover, if Tebow runs it in on 4th and one against the Rebels, this is a #1 Florida versus #2 Alabama match-up instead of the current title game entrance. I don't see Texas, Texas Tech or Oklahoma standing in either team's way, but I have no desire to see Nick Saban raise another crystal ball. I believe Florida wins this one by pulling away in the second half.
Perhaps the most surprising part of the game is that #4 Florida is favored by more than a touchdown over Alabama (10 points to be exact). And say what you want about being #1 and undefeated but if there's any group of guys in the room who know more about football than anyone else, its the people setting the betting lines. You don't get respect in betting lines no matter who you are and fans or players getting upset by this are just fooling themselves, Florida is the better team.
Florida 42 Alabama 24
- A Minnesota County judge has issued a restraining order against the NFL for the Vikings' Williamses. The move could allow both Pat and Kevin to play, however the NFL could also move swiftly as said judge is open to a hearing as early as...right now. Should be a fascinating scenario. Good thing the Vikings have the Lions this weekend.
- Apparently Giants G.M. Jerry Reese is open to a Plaxico Burress return in 2009, assuming all his legal troubles are over. Again, an interesting scenario that will play out. Problem is I don't see this one working out for Plaxico by 2009.
- Big Ben is hurt again. This time a mild knee injury (probably a mild sprain) that ended his practice early and may keep him out today. Good thing the Steelers are getting the likes of Willie Parker and Troy Polamalu in the game (under the same scenario as Ben, not practicing but playing) because their schedule (and fight with the Ravens for the division) isn't getting any easier.
- From bad to worse in Philly. After getting handled by Lower Marion standout Kobe Bryant (who got his fair share of boos because he's such an asshole), Elton Brand went down with an injury. While the Sixers poor play may be a troubling sign, keep in mind it took a while for last year's team to gel, and this year's with a new superstar, could take a while as well.
- The Knicks, regardless of dumping Isiah Thomas, are still the butt of numerous jokes in the league. Besides Stephon Marbury's "Waive me or play me" statement, the Knicks are so desperate for a guard they may actually watch Cuttino Mobley retire,and try to sign Allan Houston, their assistant GM.
- As we said yesterday, Dustin Pedroia signed a 6 year, $40.5 million extension. Also, the Cardinals traded for the Padres Kalil Greene, The Braves acquired Javiar Vazquez, The Mets resigned Nelson Figueroa and Ben Sheets declined the Brewer's arbitration offer. The Sheets deal is most interesting because A) The Brewers appear set to lose their top two pitchers and B) Sheets, in my opinion, is the best free agent pitcher (by bang for buck) on the market. He'll cost you maybe 65% of what Sabathia will and his production will probably be close, especially if Sabathia signed in the A.L.
- Sean Avery apologized, but even his Stars teammates are sick of his shit. Even coach Dave Tippett doesn't see Avery making it back (easily) to a lockerroom already concerned about its season.
- Well that didn't take long, Barry Melrose, after being canned by the "Ning Dynasty" is on his way back to ESPN for the 3 minutes of hockey that talk about during each episode of sportscenter.
- EC's DMtShooter gives us the top 10 new sports words of 2008.
- And finally, another OJ verdict on TV, AA has the details.
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