Here's a nice little hockey Daily Somehow Related to Sports Video for ya. Earlier this week, Flyers forward Scott Hartnell tried to stop Tampa Bay's Ryan Malone from scoring...by tossing a glove at him...
Needless to say, it didn't work:
Friday, December 5, 2008
Out-Drafting Bonanza Part 4 - The New England Patriots and Bill Belichick
Welcome to part 4 of the Out-Drafting Bonanza. Today's team is the Bill Belichick lead New England Patriots. For all cheating and video taping allegations, they certainly have given off the aura of being the Gold Standard for drafting. The team is considered a model franchise and the New England fans seem to turn a blind eye to how the team is run, as long as it produces winning results (so far so good). So, let's wind another one our and remember, the goal of this exercise is to compare a few different "successful" (and one really unsuccessful) NFL regimes and discover who's good, who's bad and where the hell we'll put Andy Reid.
In case you don't remember, here's a look at our Scoring System again.
And here's the regimes we'll be looking at:
- Philadelphia Eagles (Andy Reid)
- Detroit Lions (Steve Mariucci/Dick Jauron/Rod Marinelli...all under Matt Millen and we'll use this is the baseline/epitome of crap)
- Seattle Seahawks (Mike Holmgren/Tim Ruskell)
- New England Patriots (Bill Belichick)
- Jacksonville Jaguars (Jack Del Rio)
- Dallas Cowboys (
Jerry Joneserr Wade Phillips, though we'll be counting the Parcells years because of how involved Jones was regardless) - Denver Broncos (Mike Shanahan)
- Chicago Bears (Lovie Smith)
- San Diego Charges (Norv Turner...but all the A.J. Smith era)
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2002 | 1 | Daniel Graham | 3 | 0 | Graham was an adequate starter for the Pats. Not as special as they believed he would be |
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| 2 | Deion Branch | 3 | 0 | Again, Branch was a capable starter and SB MVP. He got it done when needed, but wasn't special |
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| 3 | Traded to move up and pick Graham | 1 | 0 | A third round pick for Graham? Ouch |
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| 4 | Rohan Davey/ Jarvis Green | 2 | 0 | Davey was a total flop and Green is a decent rotation DL |
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| 5 | Traded to move up and pick Green | 1 | 0 | Can't say trading up to get a reserve DL was worth it in hindsight |
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| 6 | Traded for future pick | 0 | 0 | ?? - The Pats traded a lot and it was almost impossible to track all of them |
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| 7 | Antoine Womack/ David Givens | 2 | 1 | Womack (0) never made the team but Givens (3) was a fine starter while with the Pats |
This draft really was mixed. Belichick found three adequate to good starters, but nothing special. Graham, Givens and Branch are/were good players in New England who did help produce a few Super Bowls, so its hard to argue with the results, but no studs really were taken.
2002 Score: 13 Points. First Round Hit Total: 1/1. Quality Players Selected (total): 0/6
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2003 | 1 | Ty Warren | 4 | 0 | Warren is a fine leader on defense and a stud DT |
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| 2 | Eugene Wilson/ Bethel Johnson | 2 | 0 | Wilson was a decent safety who worked the Pats system while Johnson had speed, but only showed flashes and his lack of work ethic ended his career |
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| 3 | Traded to move up and pick Wilson | 1 | 0 | Can't say trading up for Wilson was awful, but wasn't worth it |
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| 4 | Dan Klecko/ Asante Samuel | 4 | 4 | Klecko (3+1) was a fine DT and great reserve while Samuel was an all-pro (5+3) |
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| 5 | Dan Koppen | 4 | 2 | Koppen is a pro-bowl center on a Super Bowl team |
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| 6 | Kliff Kingsbury | 0 | 0 | Another miserable backup QB, never made the team's 53 |
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| 7 | Spencer Nead/ Tully Banta-Cain/ Ethan Kelley | 1 | 0 | Nead never made the squad, Banta-Cain was a decent reserve/role player and Kelley played one game as a Pat |
Talk about a marquee draft. Belichick scored higher in the 4th round than the Lions did in the entire 2004 draft. Five of his first 6 picks were hits of at least starters and he even found a decent backup (Banta-Cain) in the 7th...which you'll note is a trend with BB, he does find relative Diamonds in the rough. Its not always Brady, but he finds contributors.
2003 Score: 22 Points. First Round Hit Total: 2/2. Quality Players Selected (total): 2/16
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2004 | 1 | Vince Wilfork/ Ben Watson | 4 | 0 | Wilfork (5) is a stud DT while Watson (3) is a solid starter |
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| 2 | Marquise Hill | 1 | -1 | Hard to fault the Pats here, but Hill was a backup until his death in 2007 |
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| 3 | Guss Scott | 1 | 0 | Scott was a special teamer for 1 season with the Pats |
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| 4 | Dexter Reid/ Cedric Cobbs | 1 | 0 | Both were reserves/special teamers |
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| 5 | P.K. Sam | 0 | 0 | Between legal issues and stupidity, Sam never suited up but did collect a Super Bowl Ring |
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| 6 | Traded for Jamil Soriano | 0 | 0 | Never played as a Pat but if you google his name, you'll see him on facebook |
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| 7 | Christian Morton | 0 | 0 | Practice squadee who never suited up |
This was clearly his worst draft. Marquise Hill and Guss Scott aren't even recognizable names, but the on thing Belichick didn't screw up was the first round, where he found a stud Defensive lineman in Vince Wilfork and a nice starter in Ben Watson.
2004 Score: 6 Points. First Round Hit Total: 4/4. Quality Players Selected (total): 4/24
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2005 | 1 | Logan Mankins | 4 | 0 | Mankins is a probowler and 2nd team all-pro, nice late round pick |
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| 2 | Traded for picks to get Hobbs, Thomas (06) and Mincey (06) picks | 2 | 0 | Hobbs as a 2nd still isn't a bad pick but the package still didn't work out by 06 |
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| 3 | Ellis Hobbs/ Nick Kaczur | 3 | 0 | Hobbs (3) is a nice starter while Kaczur, regardless of legal trouble has been an effective starter at tackle |
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| 4 | James Sanders | 3 | 1 | Sanders has adequately replaced Wilson |
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| 5 | Ryan Claridge | 1 | 0 | Claridge spent 1 year as a special teamer and was released |
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| 6 | Traded for Stevenson pick (06) | 0 | 0 | Ouch |
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| 7 | Matt Cassel/ Andy Stokes | 2 | 1 | Stokes (0) never made the 53 man team but was Mr Irrelevant, and Cassel (3) has filled in very well for Tom Brady. |
Again, Belichick didn't miss on his first four picks, finding a pro-bowl lineman and three starter to decent backup players. Then in the 7th round he found current starting Quarterback Matt Cassel. I have a feeling I might get some flack for calling Cassel a three, but while he's played well, he's a backup QB on that team. A good one, but a backup.
2005 Score: 17 Points. First Round Hit Total: 5/5. Quality Players Selected (total): 5/31
| Year | Round | Name | Score (1-5) | Bonus | Note |
| 2006 | 1 | Laurence Maroney | 3 | 0 | He's a starter, but injuryprone |
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| 2 | Chad Jackson | 1 | -1 | 13 career catches and injury prone |
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| 3 | David Thomas | 2 | 0 | Thomas is a decent blocker and adequate backup |
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| 4 | Garrett Mills/ Stephen Gostkowski | 2 | 1 | Mills never played a down as a Pat, while Gostkowski is a adequate kicker |
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| 5 | Ryan O'Callaghan | 2 | 0 | O'Callaghan is currently a career backup but could become a decent starter |
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| 6 | Jeremy Mincey/ Dan Stevenson/ Le Kevin Smith | 0 | 0 | Mincey & Stevenson never made the 53 man team, while Smith has seen little time |
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| 7 | Willie Andrews | 1 | 0 | Decent special teamer |
Again, Belichick hit on the first round. While he didn't find much gold (the jury's still out on Maroney), he did find adequate players to form the high powered team for 2007. There was the Jackson bust but he was only one of two negative scorers for Belichick. The proof is in the pudding here but off the top of my head I see five players here who have contributed to successful Patriot squads (Andrews, Gostkowski, Thomas, Maroney and O'Callaghan).
2006 Score: 11 Points. First Round Hit Total: 6/6. Quality Players Selected (total): 5/41
So its reasonable to believe the Belichick drafts were a bit overrated. On the negative side, Belichick found a lot of 2s and 3s and wasn't afraid to make some 0s and cut losses (almost all the 1s were cut quickly too and none proved to be any good regardless). His positive was his ability (again) to find a lot of 2s and 3s which played crucial roles on teams that won Super Bowls. Moreover, he never missed on a first round pick (the weakest being Maroney, Watkins or Graham, though each still started a few games).
Final Scores:
- The Philadelphia Eagles and Andy Reid/Tom Heckert: 76. First round % (3 or better): 80%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 15%
- The Detroit Lions and Steve Mariucci/Dick Jauron/Rod Marinelli: 47. First round % (3 or better): 40%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 5%
- The Seattle Seahawks and Mike Holmgren/Tim Ruskell: 69. First round % (3 or better): 60%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 10%
- The New England Patriots and Bill Belichick: 69. First round % (3 or better): 100%. Quality Players Selected (4 or better): 12%
Questions, concerns, comments, errors, Omissions? Please leave in the comments for send to Justin@badnewsbloggers.com
Freedom Friday Daily "Linkin' Logs" (12/5/08)
Couple of thoughts on our new (yes another) Freedom Friday Daily "Linkin' Logs"
We'll be altering the format of Friday's links only slightly. Friday's lead column is completely ad hoc and could feature any lead column. The links won't be affected too much, but our lead column could range anywhere from sports to politics to any hot button issue that strikes me this AM.
In an unrelated not, I'm half done with the Bill Belichick/New England Patriots draft review. I can already tell you, based on the drafts I've graded already, he's most likely better than the three we've completed already (duh) and he could be the gold standard of drafting. Keep in mind, that none of the drafts graded involved Tom Brady (who would have scored an 8 or 9 total I believe). So look for that in the coming hours.
This weekend, I'm attending another college hockey game (10 dollar tickets and quality hockey make it a sport worth attending) and I'll also be meeting up with some friends before they all jaunt around the states for the holidays, so I won't be posting to heavily until Sunday. I'm hoping to get another draft review by Sunday, but no promises.
And in Freedom Friday tradition (well, now), let's talk about Northeastern Alum Jose Juan Berea's night; a night where he appears to be stealing Jason Kidd's job. With the Mavericks fading against the Suns, Barea lead a 10 point run in the 4th quarter. Barea light up the place and the Dallas fans loved the passion. Look for Barea to move from "co-starter" to starter by season's end if the trend continues.
- Chargers beat Raiders 34-7 on Thursday Night Football on the NFL Network...blah blah blah. Worse yet, with the injury to Jamarcus Russell and his season in doubt, you have to start to wonder what the Raiders are going to do. Fact of the matter is, blowing a top pick can set your franchise back years.
- You see, if the game matters, the team matters and the player matters, he'll play regardless of the criminal charges (and impending suspension) he'll be facing.
- The Yankees seem primed to grab one time Red Sock Derek Lowe as well as set up a meeting with C.C. Sabathia where (I believe) the Yankees will set their timetable. Honestly, its a smart move by the Yanks. They're going to pay more than anyone else for Sabathia because of his location preference (and the Yankees always pay more anyway), but if they allow him to shop for a month or two, the price can only go higher; so why not push him a little and make him accept an already high deal.
- Barry Bonds indicted. No; again.
- AA has the scoop on a tricky little foul during the OU-USC game.
- AGM's The Beast has the info on USC (football)'s plan to scrap a time out in exchange for wearing the home jerseys at the Rose Bowl.
- Mr E of EC says Sean Avery's mouth isn't out of the woods yet. Oh believe me, he's said much worse...still...
- And finally, Deadspin has the low down on Playboy's hottest sportscaster of 08.
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